Margery (Margaret) de Bohun, , Heiress of Bisley^{[1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6]}

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• Name	Margery (Margaret) de Bohun
  Suffix	, Heiress of Bisley
  Born	ABT. 1252	Bisley, Gloucestershire, England
  Gender	Female
  Notes	Margery (or Eleanor), heiress of 1/4 hundred of Bisley, co. Gloucester.[Ancestral Roots] -------------------------------------------------------- He [Theobald de Verdun] married, before 6 November 1276, Margery (c). Hedied 24 August 1309 at Alton, aged about 61, and was buried 13 October inCroxden Abbey, in that co. [Complete Peeerage XII/2:249-50, (transcribedby Dave Utzinger)] -------------------------------------------------------- From: Douglas Richardson (royalancestry@msn.com) Subject: Margery de Bohun, wife of Theobald de Verdun (Was: A New BohunDaughter Discovered) This is the only article in this thread View: Original Format Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval Date: 2002-01-11 15:41:47 PST Dear Newsgroup ~ Today I had the opportunity to further research the matter of Theobald deVerdun's wife, Margery. VCH Gloucester 11 (1976): 12 indicates about 1170, Hugh, Earl of Chester,granted the fee of Bisley, co. Gloucester to Humphrey de Bohun,son-in-law of Miles of Hereford. Humphrey was to hold the property forthe service of 3 knights fees out of the 5 owed for the fee. VCH Gloucester 11 (1976): 1 further shows that in 1274, the Hundred Rollsshow that the hundred of Bisley was held by Peter Corbet (in right of hiswife, Joan), Tibbald le Botiler (in right of his wife, Margery), andRichard le Eyer. Half of the profits belonged to Peter, the other halfwas shared equally by Tibbald and Richard. In 1303, a total of 2 3/4 fees in Bisley and Stroud were held from theearl of Hereford. including parts of Bisley manor, which fees were in thepossession respectively of Joan Corbet, Tibbald de Verdun, and Richard ofBisley [Reference: Feudal Aids, 2 (1900): 251]. In 1309, at Theobald de Verdun's death, it was recorded that he owned acapital messuage and lands at Bisley, co. Gloucester "in free marriage ofthe earl of Hereford by service of rendering 1 lb. cummin yearly."[Reference: Cal. IPM, vol. 5 (1908): 96]. The above information, taken together with the abstract of the legal caseI posted earlier today, make it clear that Theobald de Verdun's wife,Margery, was the daughter of Humphrey de Bohun, and that she had a 1/4share of the manor and hundred of Bisley, co. Gloucester in freemarriage. Also, it appears that Margery was married previously to acertain Robert de W., who evidently died prior to 1274, without maleissue. For an abstract of the legal case, see my earlier post which isshown below. As to which Humphrey de Bohun was Margery's father, it appears that thecorrect Humphrey is the Humphrey de Bohun, born say 1230, died 1265, whomarried before 1249 Eleanor, daughter of William de Breuse, lord ofAbergavenny, by Eve, daughter of William le Marshal, Earl of Pembroke.This Humphrey was never Earl of Hereford, he having died in his father'slifetime. This would explain why Theobald de Verdun's statements referto him only as "one Humphrey" and not as "Humphrey, Earl of Hereford." It is unusual that a high born marriage for a Bohun woman should haveescaped the attention of so many people prior to this time. Thissituation appears to have been caused by the tangled history of thehundred and manor of Bisley, co. Gloucester, which properties hadmultiple owners. It is fortunate indeed that a record of Theobald deVerdun's statements regarding his wife's parentage were preserved in theYearbooks of Edward I and that his inquisition clearly show that heacquired the property at Bisley in free marriage, held under the Earls ofHereford. Given that some 40 odd immigrants descend from Theobald de Verdun and hiswife, Margery de Bohun, this new discovery doubtless affects the ancestryof a good many people here in the newsgroup. Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah E-mail: royalancestry@msn.com Margery (or Eleanor), heiress of 1/4 hundred of Bisley, co. Gloucester. [Ancestral Roots] He [Theobald de Verdun] married, before 6 November 1276, Margery (c). He died 24 August 1309 at Alton, aged about 61, and was buried 13 October in Croxden Abbey, in that co. [Complete Peeerage XII/2:249-50, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)] (c) By right of his wife he held 1/4 of the hundred of Bisley, co. Gloucester. From: Douglas Richardson (royalancestry@msn.com) Subject: Margery de Bohun, wife of Theobald de Verdun (Was: A New Bohun Daughter Discovered) This is the only article in this thread View: Original Format Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval Date: 2002-01-11 15:41:47 PST Today I had the opportunity to further research the matter of Theobald de Verdun's wife, Margery. VCH Gloucester 11 (1976): 12 indicates about 1170, Hugh, Earl of Chester, granted the fee of Bisley, co. Gloucester to Humphrey de Bohun, son-in-law of Miles of Hereford. Humphrey was to hold the property for the service of 3 knights fees out of the 5 owed for the fee. VCH Gloucester 11 (1976): 1 further shows that in 1274, the Hundred Rolls show that the hundred of Bisley was held by Peter Corbet (in right of his wife, Joan), Tibbald le Botiler (in right of his wife, Margery), and Richard le Eyer. Half of the profits belonged to Peter, the other half was shared equally by Tibbald and Richard. In 1303, a total of 2 3/4 fees in Bisley and Stroud were held from the earl of Hereford. including parts of Bisley manor, which fees were in the possession respectively of Joan Corbet, Tibbald de Verdun, and Richard of Bisley [Reference: Feudal Aids, 2 (1900): 251]. In 1309, at Theobald de Verdun's death, it was recorded that he owned a capital messuage and lands at Bisley, co. Gloucester "in free marriage of the earl of Hereford by service of rendering 1 lb. cummin yearly." [Reference: Cal. IPM, vol. 5 (1908): 96]. The above information, taken together with the abstract of the legal case I posted earlier today, make it clear that Theobald de Verdun's wife, Margery, was the daughter of Humphrey de Bohun, and that she had a 1/4 share of the manor and hundred of Bisley, co. Gloucester in free marriage. Also, it appears that Margery was married previously to a certain Robert de W., who evidently died prior to 1274, without male issue. For an abstract of the legal case, see my earlier post which is shown below. As to which Humphrey de Bohun was Margery's father, it appears that the correct Humphrey is the Humphrey de Bohun, born say 1230, died 1265, who married before 1249 Eleanor, daughter of William de Breuse, lord of Abergavenny, by Eve, daughter of William le Marshal, Earl of Pembroke. This Humphrey was never Earl of Hereford, he having died in his father's lifetime. This would explain why Theobald de Verdun's statements refer to him only as "one Humphrey" and not as "Humphrey, Earl of Hereford." It is unusual that a high born marriage for a Bohun woman should have escaped the attention of so many people prior to this time. This situation appears to have been caused by the tangled history of the hundred and manor of Bisley, co. Gloucester, which properties had multiple owners. It is fortunate indeed that a record of Theobald de Verdun's statements regarding his wife's parentage were preserved in the Yearbooks of Edward I and that his inquisition clearly show that he acquired the property at Bisley in free marriage, held under the Earls of Hereford. Given that some 40 odd immigrants descend from Theobald de Verdun and his wife, Margery de Bohun, this new discovery doubtless affects the ancestry of a good many people here in the newsgroup.
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  Father	Humphrey VI de Bohun, , Governor of Winchester,   b. Abt 1220, Herfordshire, Essex, England ,   d. 27 Oct 1265, (dvp)  (Age ~ 45 years)
  Mother	Eleanor de Braose,   b. 1230, Brecon, Breconshire, Wales ,   d. 20 Feb 1312/1313, Llanthony Inn, Gloucestershire, England  (Age 83 years)
  Married	BEF. 15 Feb 1247/48	Brecknock, Breconshire, Wales   [7]
  Family ID	F1337	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

  Married	Bef 6 Nov 1276  [4, 5, 8]
  Family ID	F1305	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

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