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- Curt Hofemann, curt_hofemann@yahoo.com, in a post-em, states:
ROBERT, [the original, and possibly only Robert--existence of a 2ndRobert (as father) is speculative at this time]], son and heir. [detailsof his career from 1203 to 1232 are given. Paget says this is the elderRobert, but as I said before, I wonder whether there may really be twoRoberts in succession here.] Ref: Chris Phillips 6 Oct 2001] Researchnote: there is question as to the accuracy of Paget's Peerage - untilcorroborating sources confirm the above, I leave Robert as the 1st of theline... Curt
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following is the argument for a 2 Robert theory, of which this Robert isthe younger, put forth by Chris Phillips (which I have followed):
Paget gives further details of the "elder" Robert's career, from 1203 to1227, and says he married Agatha, dau and coheir of Fulk Beaufoy [citingBlomefield's History of Norfolk], and says he had 4 daughters by her(repeating some of the errors about the daughters…). He adds that Robertmarried secondly Alice, widow of John de Wahull (d.1217) [citingBracton's Notebook, no 1182] and daughter of William de Munchensi, andthat Robert was still living 1232.
Having said that, we know that the mother of the "elder" Robert's 4daughters was not in fact Agatha de Beaufo, but Margery, daughter ofWilliam de Fresney. Also that at least two of these daughters gave birthto their heirs around 1240. And that C.J. Phillips in his History of theSackville Family makes Agatha de Beaufo the mother of Robert, not hiswife.
So could it be that there are two Roberts here - the first who wasactive by 1203 and married Agatha de Beaufo, and the second who marriedMargery de Fresney and died around 1249 leaving 4 daughters and a widowAlice "de Merley/Marley"? Perhaps this Alice is the same one mentionedabove, in any case. [Ref: Chris Phillips, message tosoc.genealogy.medieval, 24 Sep 2001]
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